need advice...

[panosru]

katarxin xereto olous sto forum, eimai kainourios sto forum. asxoloume sxedon 2 xronia me web development (php). asxoloume erasitexnika me thn kataskeyh istoselidas, dld exo ena site opou parexo hosting kai yphresies opos web dev (gia emfanish kyrios) sigkekrimena ftiaxno sites gia filous gnostous ktl eimai 18eton kai pao se idiotiko iek, sthn delta (den ksero an einai kako pou to anafero ayto). basika ekei pou thelo na katalikso einai oti ksero arketa kala thn php alla den mou ftanei thelo na emploutiso tis gnoseis mou se ypsilotero epipedo.. tora katalabaino pos einai poly genika ayta pou anafero. eimai sto 3o eksamhno, stis arxes akoma. alla oi symathites mou den kseroun kala kala html kai o daskalos epidi eide pos ksero apo php kai sta dialimata pou mou elhne apories ktl mou eipe mhn perimeneis na matheis tpt kainourio sto tmhma logo oti oi symathites mou einai se poly aproxorito epipedo kai den mporei na asxolhte mono mazi mou o kathigitis (fysiko ayto kai katanohto) o kathigitis einai poly kalos kai mou eipe pos otidipote xreiasto na ton enoxlo oso thelo alla den mou ftanei ayto. dld exo kapoia kena sthn php logo tou oti eimai aytomathis. ksekinisa me ena nuke site (opou to sixathika, dokimasa ola ta cms pou yparxoun kai den ksan' aggizo cms) diabaza ton kodika apo ta cms fysika sthn arxi mou htan akatalabistika me ton kairo xalaga peiramatizomoun eftiaxna kai siga siga katalabaina thn php, to nohma tis basikes entoles ktl sthn synexeia arxisa na ftiaxno kati dikomou arxisa na diabazo otidhpote pesei sta xeria mou kai exei thn leksi php! exo diabasei ena soro tutorials ktl kai siga siga ematha kapoia pramata alla bathia mesa mou niotho pos exo pola kena akoma kai thelo na ta kalypso. (omg epitelous kateliksa ekei pou hthela!) an mporei kapoios na mou protinei kati, px biblia apo pou mporo na ta promytheyto ktl.. (mhn mou peite pare biblio gia php, peite mou parte ayto to biblio apo ekei) ayta... thanks again...
PS:den eimai poly kalos sthn perigrafh kai stis eksigisi gi' ayto mhn me pareksigite :S

[skeftomilos]

Πω πω! Βάλε καμιά παράγραφο βρε αδελφέ! Δεδομένου ότι είμαι μάλλον αρχάριος στην PHP δε μπορώ να σου προτείνω τίποτα από βιβλία. Μαθαίνω κι εγώ αυτή την εποχή, και έχοντας αρκετή προηγούμενη προγραμματιστική εμπειρία έπιασα αμέσως το PHP manual από πάνω προς τα κάτω και κοντεύω να το τελειώσω (όχι σε βάθος εννοείται). Μπορείς να κοιτάξεις για δανειστικές βιβλιοθήκες. Αν μένεις Αθήνα μπορείς να επισκεφτείς το Ευγενίδιο Ίδρυμα που έχει μεγάλο τεχνικό τμήμα, αν και για PHP δεν έχει τόσα βιβλία όσα θα έπρεπε.

Ίδρυμα Ευγενίδου, Λ.Συγγρού 387, Δευ-Τρι-Τετ-Πεμ 8:30-20:00, Παρ 8:30-15:00, Σαβ 8:30-14:00.

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The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple. Ο μη νους δε σκέπτεται μη σκέψεις για το τίποτα.

[cherouvim]

google is your friend
gia otidipote allo rota edo
min ksehnas na koitas tis functions sou sto php.net/examplefunction giati paizei poly feedback apo kosmo pou asholeitai

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[panosru]

plaka sthn plaka google 4 life!
mas edosan biblia shmera sto iek lol (120eyro oO) alla einai moufa :S den leo men exei mesa kai bohthimata ktl kai mesa apo tutorials sou dinoun na katalabeis entoles ktl alla exei poly apla pragmata :S exei px na ftiaxneis eshop online kart image gallery forum calendar kai diafora tetoia :S den leo gia kapoion pou arxizei tora einai oraia paradigmata alla ego thelo kati poio polyploko :S px algorithmous kai tetoia ayta mou aresoun an kai ena biblio opou na sou dixnei apo to 0 na ftiaxneis ena cms (px phpnuke - oxi oti einai to kalytero alla exei to poio polyploko kodika ap' ola ta cms - kai ayto den tha me xalage! xD) anyway thanks paidia an kai tora teleytaia katalaba pou ofhlete to keno pou niotho.. :/ den einai sthn php einai sto 3d.. (ksekarfoto to ksero etsi eimai ego! xD) thelo apisteyta poly na matho 3d!! px tha hthela poly na ksero 3d opos o billybussey mou aresei poly to efe px 2advanced kai tokioplastic kati tetoio :/ dystixos den eimai toso kalos oso tha hthela na eimai ston tomea tou design kai etsi skeytomai meta to iek na pao intergraphics (alla den zhtane kai liga re gamoto kai den mou periseboun.. opote malon tha matheno apo tutorials :/ )

PS: paragrafos? ti einai ayto? :| <p> </p> ayto enoeis? giati ta ekana kati tetoia stis panelinies sthn ekthesh! lol ebaza mesa greeklish petaksa kana html katalathos mesa.. eleos i know.. den les kala pou den eftiaksa thn ekthesh se site! :|

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[Rapid-eraser]

pargrafos simevei ekei pou teliovei n protasi sivexizeis stnv epoemvi grami kai afivei 3-4 xarktires kevo pros ta deksia kai sivexizeis apo ekei
allazei n voimatiki evoita tou 8ematos pou pragmatebese

Alla evgevei va afiveis mia grami pou kai pou dev eivai kako gia va bgazoume akri ti simbevei...

Welcome to php. Prosopika sou protivo va katebaseis to manual tis php av dev to exeis kavei idi. Stnv sivexeia va petaxteis papasotiriou kai va pareis 2 biblia.
Zend Study Guide + Practice Test Book

To ksero kali php apo to va mporw va to apodikso exouv eva evdiameso bima pou legete
Zend PHP Certification Program
To Zend Certified Engineer (ZCE) eivai to diploma pou divei n Zend gia tous php programatistes.
Afto pou eksetazei afto to diploma eivai tnv gvosi sou stnv php kai oxi tis programatistikes sou ikavotites.

Pagkosmios mexri afti tnv stigmi iparxouv peripou 857 pou exouv kataferei va to aprouv (kai emfavizovte sta yellow pages, av kai dev mporw va favtastw kapoiov pou to exei parei kai dev epi8imei va emfavistei ekei ) kai kavevas apo Ellada.

Av kai afto dev simevei polla stous kiklous tov programatistov eivai eva apo ta pio dimofili kai avagvorismima atou.

Prosopika exo kavovisei va paw va dosw aftes tis eksetasteis mesa stov dekembrio opote 8a sou pw tis empiries mou pavo se afto kapoia stigmi.

Afto to diploma apeti peripou 3mives kalo diabasma kai 3 xrovia empiria pavo stnv kataskebi emporikwv efarmogwv.
So ksekiva me afta ta dio biblia av kai poli pi8avov va miv ma8eis iperbolika polla pragmata mesa apo ekei 8a deis omos 8emata pou isos dev ta exeis kalipsei pote. OO programatismo , mime mails , generic dbs , filestreams , debug aka.

Twra av se evdiaferei kati parapavo koitakse to Php Blackbook av kai exei stamatisei va kikloforei kai eivai arketa palio periexei para polla 8emata mesa.

Tnv stigmi omos pou ksereis tnv glossa afto pou sou lipei eivai n texviki kai n programatistiki gvosi.
To pos 8a baleis kato algori8mous apo to xarti, pos 8a skefteis programatistika kai gevika 8emata pou kaliptei evas programatistis.

Gia va kalipseis tetoia 8emata kai me dedomevo oti dev exeis polles programatistikes gvoseis n kaliteri lisi eivai mia sivdiasmevi morfi twv triov pragmatwv pou exouv ipo8ei mexri twra...

1) rotame tov daskalo mexri aidias ... tou givomaste tsimpouri mexri va mas pei siko kai fige apo edw.
2) episkeftomaste tnv biblio8iki kai tsimpame osa perisotera books gia tov programatismo briskoume akoma kai av pragmatebete 8emata pou katexoume , eivai poli kalo va deis kai pos grafei kodika evas tritos av8ropos
3) sapizoume to google mexri aidias

kai eva telefteo
4) apavtame kaveva 8emataki sto freestuff pou exei sxesi me php Ksereis ti kalo kavei to debugging stis erotiseis mesa apo to freestuff ???
Pragmatika egw to telefteo eksamivo priv to kalokairi ekava arketo practice (sta avipopsiasta 8imata tou freestuff )

xexe anyway opos leei kai mia parimia av eisai kai papas me tnv aradasou 8a pas.
So miv perimeveis va ksipviseis abrio kai va ta ksereis ola ... diabasma diabasma diabasma n xrisi sivtagi pou se kselaspovei .

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Love is like oxygen, You get too much you get too high
Not enough and you're gonna die, Love gets you high

[cordis]

δεν ξέρεις πόσα έχω μάθει απλά απαντώντας στο freestuff..

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[panosru]

omg sixainomai to diabasma alla einai geniko ayto pou leo basika sixainomai ta sxolika biblia! dose mou tomous php tha stous diabaso olous se mia mera! tha kao tha liso alla tha ta diabaso ola!!!!! oso gia to 4 to diabasa 5 - 6 fores alla akoma den katalaba ti enoeis! lol

PS: epitelous ena forum me fysiologikous anthropous! paidia se alla forum pote den milao! einai tou style milises, kaikes! bgainoun oloi na se thapsoun!!!

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[cordis]

panosru ανέφερε:

PS: epitelous ena forum me fysiologikous anthropous! paidia se alla forum pote den milao! einai tou style milises, kaikes! bgainoun oloi na se thapsoun!!!

Ευχαριστούμε για τα καλά σου λόγια.

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[panosru]

to site to ksero xronia tora alla mporo na po pos to ypotimousa... (sorry) os proth emfanisi den mou edine megalh entiposh..

kapoio kairo apo ena tyxaio link sto google kathos epsaxna kati ena link odhgouse se ayto to forum.

diabasa to tutorial pou epsaxna kai me kalypse pliros, alla den htan ayto pou mou kinise to endiaferon, eida ton tropo pou milousan oi xristes tou site, eniosa ayth thn allhloektimisi allhlosebasmo kai allhlosymparastash pou exoun oi xrhstes metaksitous kai ayto htan pou ektimisa perisotero! egina amesos melos kai tote mpaino sto site ayto gia otidipote thelo! giati ksero pos an kano mia erothsh den tha me koroidepsei kaneis, opos kanoun se alla forum! kai ksero pos oloi tha speysoun na me bohthisoun!

ayta...

Cordis lol tora eida to Administrator kato apo to nick sou! great site nice job an kai den to polyxoneyo to bb alla den exei shmasia ayto!

phra to didagmamou, oso asxhmo eksofilo kai an exei ena biblio to periexomeno einai pou metraei.

to asxhmo mhn to pareksigeis, einai kati poly geniko kai den mporeis na oriseis kati "asxhmo" giati mporei na einai panemorfo gia kapoion allon.

PS: giati den bazate vBuletin?

[Rapid-eraser]

Giati dev eimaste se periodo dokimwv pia

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Love is like oxygen, You get too much you get too high
Not enough and you're gonna die, Love gets you high

[Rapid-eraser]

Koita sto freestuff oi erotiseis pervouv apavtiseis (esto kai av n apavtisi eivai eva kalo kraksimo )
To klidi sto freestuff eivai n erotisi pou 8a kaveis va exei sigkekrimevi apavtisi kai oxi gevikotites.

So mpevovtas stnv diadikasia va apavtiseis se kapoia erotisi sto freestuff 8a psaxteis ligo perisotero se xaza 8emata ... sivi8os me tnv diadikasia tou debug.
Kapoio source pou dev 8a paizei kapoia sivartisi pou eivai la8os gramevn aka.

Sivexizovtas me afti tnv logiki 'asxoloume me ta problimata twv allwv' kai esy 8a epofeli8eis kai oi alloi.

Afto elege to 4) meta apo apokodikopiisi

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Love is like oxygen, You get too much you get too high
Not enough and you're gonna die, Love gets you high

[panosru]

xaxaxax to ekanes encrypt gia na mhn to katalabo e... topoiasa basika efaga thn polyagaphmenh thriliki mplai othonh ton windows! lol eleos? kapoio loop se mia selida g@****ithike kai mou petakse mplai othonh oO eleos! anyway eythxos exo 2o disko pou den to xrisimopoio to exo aposyndemeno fortomeno me xp sp2 katharo install den exo balei tpt pano kai to exo gia kati tetoies periptoseis... lol

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[panosru]

a me ta pola bghkame apo to thema! to manual ths php to exo katebasei to exo ksekokalisei! lol
ayton ton papasothriou pou tha ton bro? oO grafei to site tou pou einai? plaka sthn plaka exei kala biblia!

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NodeJS | PHP / Symfony 2 / JavaScript / HTML5 / CSS3
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[Rapid-eraser]

Avebeveis tnv Stourvari (paralila me to politexvio) dipla sto plaisio
Dev 8a to xaseis eivai goviako

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Love is like oxygen, You get too much you get too high
Not enough and you're gonna die, Love gets you high

[panosru]

stournari? ekei konta einai kai to iek mou xD popo tha peraso apo to panepistimio! lol mono ap' ekso mporo na to blaipo

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